tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post3264556043388129743..comments2024-02-14T07:46:50.268-07:00Comments on Big Wheel Building: Warm feet are happy feet.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-8687877751818146082007-11-25T14:22:00.000-07:002007-11-25T14:22:00.000-07:00My current cheapo setup is to wear 1-2 regular soc...My current cheapo setup is to wear 1-2 regular socks plus some thick woolly ones in my race shoes, topping it off with Endura MT500 overshoes to help lessen the wind chill. And so far it's worked fine for everything but my toes.<BR/><BR/>So I've been thinking about sacrificing whatever tiny wiggle room I have left by cutting up some old wool socks to make an extra layer for the toe area.<BR/><BR/>Might also try some Sealskinz socks -- their gloves are amazing. In any case I need to figure something out before my toes fall off, as Icelandic wind chill is a bitch. May end up getting a pair of LakesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-60091952565679250912007-11-18T22:20:00.000-07:002007-11-18T22:20:00.000-07:00RE: cleat positioning--on older models of the Lake...RE: cleat positioning--on older models of the Lake winter shoe (~'02 and '03, maybe even '04 IIRC) the cleat pocket was further forward than I liked, so I just drilled two holes further back, dremeled a 'pocket' around them, then used one of those removable cleat backing plates inside the shoe to get the cleat exactly where I needed it. It took a few hours of fiddling to get it all done and done right, but it worked great.<BR/><BR/>On the newer models (last 2-3 years) the cleat position ends up just fine for me in the 'normal' cleat slots. Granted, I have it pushed 95% of the way back in those slots, but still--using the stock cleat pocket works fine.<BR/><BR/>MCMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02002777916876297706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-90457379398122121062007-11-18T20:24:00.000-07:002007-11-18T20:24:00.000-07:00Timely post there Mike! Thank you.I use the Lake s...Timely post there Mike! Thank you.<BR/><BR/>I use the Lake shoes myself, but I don't bother with the extreme stuff yet. MX 165 (I think) is what I use sized two sizes too big and it works a trick for commuting.<BR/><BR/>I'll likely be taking some of your info here and upgrading to that lake shoe here soon. I want to get into some more extreme temps and riding here. (For the two to three weeks it keeps me off the bike now)<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Guitar Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960580677548417562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-56696359970668563672007-11-18T16:55:00.000-07:002007-11-18T16:55:00.000-07:00thanks for all the detailed info.i too was wonderi...thanks for all the detailed info.<BR/>i too was wondering about the cleat positioning with a boot that large. the extra space of the large boot must be much more in the toe than in the heel (if the heel of your foot wasn't most all the way back in the boot it'd slip out too easy). with this scenario you must end up with a cleat pretty damn far forward on your foot. for someone like me, who rides with a cleat as far back on my shoe as possible (especially on longer rides) i'd be very concerned about fatigue and injury due to my foot being so far back on the pedal. obviously this hasn't been a significant problem for you but i'd love to hear your take on it.Geoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03238385683129822240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-48386272105425745192007-11-18T12:27:00.000-07:002007-11-18T12:27:00.000-07:00Mike, Here's my question....with a size 15 boot, i...Mike, Here's my question....with a size 15 boot, is it possible for the cleat to be in the right position for your foot? I have the Lake MXZ301's one size larger then my shoe size. Even with one size up, there was not a lot of room to adjust the cleat so it was positioned correctly. <BR/><BR/>I find my set-up only gets me down to about 0 degrees. Below zero and I switch to platforms and hiking boot two sizes bigger with VB's. That kept me warm down to -30 air temp during the Arrowhead 135 this year.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this post. I have learned the importance of "wiggle room", but hadn't heard of anyone taking it to this level before. I'll continue to re-think things.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090802854306112252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-24393046751764430522007-11-18T08:21:00.000-07:002007-11-18T08:21:00.000-07:00Those Lake MXZ302 shoes are awesome! I rode here i...Those Lake MXZ302 shoes are awesome! I rode here in Colorado with just a pair of snowboarding wool socks and those Lake boots (sized one size bigger per the great folks at Lake) all last winter. I was riding in a storm with windchill at around -17 and my feet were toasty. Thanks for the other tips about the VBL etc... I don't see me riding in anything worse than last year, but it's nice to know some of your tried and true secrets to warmth! Thanks again for sharing!<BR/><BR/>JohnDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-1020456654596871922007-11-17T19:38:00.000-07:002007-11-17T19:38:00.000-07:00Back in the day... when snowboarding was an infant...Back in the day... when snowboarding was an infant, we would exchange ski boot liners for the felt ones in the sorels (hard boots on s board were inheard of as of yet). This gave us more stability and warm.<BR/><BR/>The same logic make work here - exchanging quality liners into a available winter boot, although adding SPDs to any shoe can be tough. YMMV<BR/><BR/>The company I work with makes custom foot orthitics, perhaps we could design a rider specific insert.<BR/><BR/>The neoprene over shoes last only too long (short).<BR/><BR/>good topic MC<BR/>-jsunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-9161095579940648622007-11-17T19:16:00.000-07:002007-11-17T19:16:00.000-07:00Ah yes, it makes more sense now that I can see pic...Ah yes, it makes more sense now that I can see pics. I wear a 10.5 or 11 US EE so I might be out of luck. However, Lake did come out with a wider version of their winter shoe for 2008! The sheet metal screws are a nice touch!Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08799615710498415775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-16965660935787172052007-11-17T18:15:00.000-07:002007-11-17T18:15:00.000-07:00Padre--No amount of fuzzy math would get you into ...Padre--No amount of fuzzy math would get you into extreme cold, so shoe size is kind of a moot point, dontchathink?<BR/><BR/>All--I re-loaded the pics, so they should be working now.<BR/><BR/>DB--The Lake boot has a felt liner between your foot and the cleat, so anything further really isn't necessary. If you look at the shot of the underside of the shoe, you can see that I filled the cleat pocket with RTV--basically to prevent water/slush from working it's way up inside. <BR/><BR/>DN--Sorels with platforms? I guess I choose to live in a world full of color, instead of just black and white! To each their own, though...<BR/><BR/>MCMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02002777916876297706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-83507448048510499142007-11-17T17:55:00.000-07:002007-11-17T17:55:00.000-07:00Nice tips!What about sorels with platforms?Call it...Nice tips!<BR/><BR/>What about sorels with platforms?<BR/><BR/>Call it old school whatever =)FixieDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685170404057881390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-30567341816776561832007-11-17T17:14:00.000-07:002007-11-17T17:14:00.000-07:00Do you do anything special beneath the Sorel liner...Do you do anything special beneath the Sorel liner where the cleat is located?<BR/>What pedal do you use in the winter?<BR/><BR/>Pics for this post aren't working for me either.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the good info.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08799615710498415775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-75556590994146914042007-11-17T15:13:00.000-07:002007-11-17T15:13:00.000-07:00Rats-o, no photos.Thanks for sharing yer methods.Rats-o, no photos.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for sharing yer methods.Kevin Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02266439584628752801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-14707060795391237992007-11-17T15:07:00.000-07:002007-11-17T15:07:00.000-07:00p.s. only 1 of your many photos actually worked.p.s. only 1 of your many photos actually worked.ewxlt66https://www.blogger.com/profile/13139449712042637685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3943627808770318379.post-47584006984340704222007-11-17T15:06:00.000-07:002007-11-17T15:06:00.000-07:00So let me get a few things straight...A: You have ...So let me get a few things straight...<BR/><BR/>A: You have size 8.5 feet? Wow...<BR/>B: According to your math, if I was going to spend time in the extreme cold, using your system, I'd need a size 21.5 Lake MXZ302.<BR/><BR/>Sound about right?<BR/><BR/>-Padreewxlt66https://www.blogger.com/profile/13139449712042637685noreply@blogger.com